unarmed Fokker

8 March 2002, 04:46 AM

Hi,
I have pictures from MLFA III from late 1915. On one we can see a crashed Fokker monoplane with a transparent part of the wing. Does the E-types of Fokker have such a part or was it a Fokker M two-place plane?

AchimEngels · 8 March 2002, 05:52 AM

Feldflieger,

from your description it is hard to get the meaning of what you are talking about. Is there a way for you to post this image here?

Achim

Cigogne · 8 March 2002, 06:09 AM

There are several photos of unarmed Fokker M.5L (Military designation type A) types with an angular cutout by the wing root to aid in the downward vision. I have seen one of Kurt Wintgens in such an aircraft, possibly at Schwerin.

Could you give any further description. Is it a mid-wing monoplane, or a shoulder wing monoplane (wing mounted towards top longeron rather than mid fuselage as in E-type.)

Thanks,

Cigogne

charles · 8 March 2002, 07:05 AM

Quote:

Hi,
I have pictures from MLFA III from late 1915. On one we can see a crashed Fokker monoplane with a transparent part of the wing. Does the E-types of Fokker have such a part or was it a Fokker M two-place plane?

Please post the pictures of this unarmed Fokker. What date are we talking about? Where did it come down?

9 March 2002, 02:17 AM

Good morning, gentlemen-

Cicogne is doubtless correct. *It sounds like a Type A monoplane, well covered in Flight in December 1915 and l"Aerophile in February 1916. *Keep your pants on, I just happen to be working on a translation of the latter, which is quite interesting. *(Achim, I'll be sending you scans of the illustrations, if you are willing.)

In the meantime, this is what Feldflieger is most likely talking about:

You should be able to make out the "window" (cutout) in the shoulder-mounted wing of this somewhat forgotten variant. *(And, continuing to ride my hobby horse, the darkish finish is consistnt with my contention that most, or all, Fok. Eindeckers were not in CDL as this term is usually understood. *The very early use of an outlined Eisernes Kreuz on the rudder, possibly on a dark-painted field, is also of some interest, ja?)

Regards to all,
Stefen

AchimEngels · 9 March 2002, 05:55 AM

StefenK,

Thanks a lot, sure I am interested in the French report on the M.8, especially the translated version

I have the "Flight" article and would very much like to compare these. Charles Gosse might also be interested in a copy. Charles are you listening?

I still would be interested in seeing the photograph Feldflieger was originally talking about. Is it this one?

Achim