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Old 14 December 2001, 06:14 AM   #1
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Hello,

I am looking for more specific information on marking/coloring variations to the D.VII's of Jasta 19. I know they had yellow noses, but what about the other surfaces? Does any one know of any links, or other resources for more info? Thanks!!
 
Old 14 December 2001, 06:30 AM   #2
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Here you go, yellow noses, blue fuselage, horizontal stab and elevator:
http://209.235.66.44/WW1/Germans/Jastas/Jasta_19.htm
 
Old 14 December 2001, 06:53 AM   #3
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Thanks for the helpful link!! I appreciate it.. Were ALL D7's in Jasta 19 painted pretty much the same way? Yellow noses with dark blue fuselages??
 
Old 14 December 2001, 07:14 AM   #4
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I don't know. The picture caption on that page makes it sound like it was the standard scheme
 
Old 14 December 2001, 07:26 AM   #5
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the reason i ask about other fuselage colors is that i have seen other prints of yellow nosed D7's that have olive-green drab fuselage's... Any ideas?
 
Old 14 December 2001, 11:23 AM   #6
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Jasta 19 was one of the component units of JG II. After Berthold took over after von Tutschek was killed he implemented that all units have the rear fuselages of their aircraft painted blue. The noses would then be painted another color. This was most apparent on the Albatros and Fokker D.VII aircraft.

Jasta 12 continued to use the black tail white noses of the pre-Berthold period until they transitioned to Fokker D.VII whereupon they then had blue fuselages and white noses.

Jasta 13: Some Albatros D.V/Va of 1918 and D.VIIs have green noses and blue fuselages.

Jasta 15 had blue rear fuselages and red noses. Some aircraft, like Bertholds may have had only the metal nose cowling panels painted red and the area between them and where the blue marking started near the cockpit, in natural streaky finish.

Jasta 19 had white cowlings on their Dr.I aircraft and the yellow tailplane with two chordwise black stripes that were angled to align with the fuselage taper. The fuselages were streaky Fokker factory finish. Personal markings were carried in black-white on the fuselage sides behind the cockpit.

The later Fokker D.VII aircraft had yellow noses and blue fuselages.
 
Old 14 December 2001, 12:00 PM   #7
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wow... thanks for the info. I am inpressed indeed. Now that I have a clearer picture about markings for Jasta 19, I am looking for specific aircraft numbers for Lt. Oliver Freiherr von Beaulieu-Marconnay's D7. Any info anyone??
 
Old 14 December 2001, 12:33 PM   #8
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The nose was yellow400mm aft of the out side edge of the radiator. the fuselage, wheel covers
and tailplane were blue. Fin and rudder were white.
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Old 14 December 2001, 01:16 PM   #9
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Dan,

Just to twist your tail a bit, (I LOVE doing that): 1st, I agree with the Jasta 19 markings. 2nd, although not specifically stated by you, I don't believe Oliver von B.M.'s Jasta 19 D.VII, marked 4D, was ever painted in Jasta 19 colors. He took this aircraft with him from Jasta 15 when given command of Jasta 19, and I think it continued to bear the red/blue markings of Jasta 15. Despite all the color profiles to the contrary! All the photos I've seen of 4D show it in the red/blue. Rick
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But are you sure that the famous photo of him standing along side his Fok. D.VII (formely R. Berthold winged sword!) was taken at Jasta 19, I don't think so, I think it was taken at Jasta 15. What do you think?
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