Breguet's Crashfile ID Challenge #912

[Albrecht]

Scoreboard at the end of Breguet's Crashfile ID Challenge # 911: Royal Aircraft Factory BE2b

114.45 FLAMINGO ☼☼☼☼
97.80 FOKKERJ Feuchtwanger ☼☼☼
76.95 Lodzermensch ☼☼☼
75.30 Froggy ☼☼☼
61.20 YavorD ☼☼
60.00 richard B ☼☼
47.30 John McKenzie ☼
42.60 Rbailey ☼
35.80 Breguet ☼
29.00 Albrecht ☼
19.25 AROTH
18.45 AQUILIUS
16.30 Varese2002
15.80 '14-'18aviationcollector
12.80 Patrick
12.50 Brad
11.30 Rod_Filan
10.00 ONEALM
08.10 Gregvan
07.50 matte_kudasai
07.40 Expositor
07.00 Pfalz-Scout
06.00 Dan_San_Abbott
06.00 Machinist
05.75 Ross
05.70 Jeroplan
05.50 Gilles
05.25 Rexee
05.20 Albatros1234
05.20 Crankcase
05.20 Laserlloyd
05.20 SCMc
05.10 Catfish
05.00 Albatros_Ace
05.00 Kilian
05.00 RAF56_Ball ............. Have to wait three hours

04.50 Rufe ...................... May start immediately
04.00 Al Forbes
04.00 Berman
04.00 Edmondy
04.00 Eric
04.00 Missouri Mule
04.00 Sobrien
04.00 Timothy Seilbeck
03.80 gregorydquist
03.50 sergio_vitalio
03.30 PaulForster
03.20 Colin A Owers
03.20 vossiewulf
03.00 Crimso
02.70 Tbstreet
02.50 Willi Von Klugerman
02.00 Cruze
02.00 Johnnick
02.00 Rickenbaron
01.80 Tom L
01.50 Nieuport 14
01.50 Tally Ho
01.45 Ransom E. Olds
01.10 Jellytwig
01.00 AEFSPADs
01.00 ArisKosionidis
01.00 airwarrior
01.00 Ampovanda
01.00 brisfitworks
01.00 Cigogne
01.00 Cliff
01.00 Graham Hunter
01.00 Mark
01.00 misa2
01.00 Pvernon
01.00 rammjaeger
01.00 RONNY BAR
01.00 Stargazer
01.00 Tork1945
01.00 Troy Raines
01.00 ulpilot
00.50 Aeronaut

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[Breguet]

For the 'star struts' I'll say the Hansa-Brandenburg KD [D1]. Though, I'll admit the tail has me a bit bamboozled.

[Froggy]

Bonjour

May be the Hansa-Brandenburg D1 with which Frank Linke Crawford crashed on 9/11/1917 ?
here another view of the same aircraft
http://www.maketarstvo.net/forum/vie...b7e886cc4a2ec1



Bruno

[Breguet]

I've seen other pics of other D1's where there was what looks like a mass balance attached to the rudder rather than a fin. ???? Froggy's pic is definitely the same crash though.

[ONEALM]

The fin was added later I think to help directional stability. That large flat sided airplane probably blanked out much of the rudder.

[Albrecht]

Correct. This is KD 28.15 (Hansa Brandenburg D.I). According to Dr. O'Connor, it received a new rudder and vertical stab just prior to the crash.

Scoreboard at the end of Breguet's Crashfile ID Challenge # 912: KD 28.15 (Hansa Brandenburg D.I)

114.45 FLAMINGO ☼☼☼☼
97.80 FOKKERJ Feuchtwanger ☼☼☼
76.95 Lodzermensch ☼☼☼
75.30 Froggy ☼☼☼
61.20 YavorD ☼☼
60.00 richard B ☼☼
47.30 John McKenzie ☼
42.60 Rbailey ☼
36.80 Breguet ☼
29.00 Albrecht ☼
19.25 AROTH
18.45 AQUILIUS
16.30 Varese2002
15.80 '14-'18aviationcollector
12.80 Patrick
12.50 Brad
11.30 Rod_Filan
10.00 ONEALM
08.10 Gregvan
07.50 matte_kudasai
07.40 Expositor
07.00 Pfalz-Scout
06.00 Dan_San_Abbott
06.00 Machinist
05.75 Ross
05.70 Jeroplan
05.50 Gilles
05.25 Rexee
05.20 Albatros1234
05.20 Crankcase
05.20 Laserlloyd
05.20 SCMc
05.10 Catfish
05.00 Albatros_Ace
05.00 Kilian
05.00 RAF56_Ball ............. Have to wait three hours

04.50 Rufe ...................... May start immediately
04.00 Al Forbes
04.00 Berman
04.00 Edmondy
04.00 Eric
04.00 Missouri Mule
04.00 Sobrien
04.00 Timothy Seilbeck
03.80 gregorydquist
03.50 sergio_vitalio
03.30 PaulForster
03.20 Colin A Owers
03.20 vossiewulf
03.00 Crimso
02.70 Tbstreet
02.50 Willi Von Klugerman
02.00 Cruze
02.00 Johnnick
02.00 Rickenbaron
01.80 Tom L
01.50 Nieuport 14
01.50 Tally Ho
01.45 Ransom E. Olds
01.10 Jellytwig
01.00 AEFSPADs
01.00 ArisKosionidis
01.00 airwarrior
01.00 Ampovanda
01.00 brisfitworks
01.00 Cigogne
01.00 Cliff
01.00 Graham Hunter
01.00 Mark
01.00 misa2
01.00 Pvernon
01.00 rammjaeger
01.00 RONNY BAR
01.00 Stargazer
01.00 Tork1945
01.00 Troy Raines
01.00 ulpilot
00.50 Aeronaut