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27 November 2005, 02:13 AM
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Two-seater Pilot
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Red Baron's hair on eBay
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27 November 2005, 02:16 AM
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I have one of MvRs boogies in his hankie too.
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27 November 2005, 02:19 AM
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Interesting item but I suspect MvR must have looked like a Beatle to give enough hair for all the buyers of his hair in the last decades.
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27 November 2005, 02:42 AM
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Originally Posted by rammjaeger
Interesting item but I suspect MvR must have looked like a Beatle to give enough hair for all the buyers of his hair in the last decades. 
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But Rammers, old chap, you assume that he had just the one head of hair. Recent research shows he had several, although whether they were all the same colour, and indeed which colour or colours (shown here as black but may have been red), is disputed.
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27 November 2005, 04:30 AM
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There is always considerable scepticism about human relics. I think it was Monty Python who summed it up in a sketch where a medieval monk was selling the left foot of a long dead saint from when he was a child and a second left foot from the same saint, removed after he died of old age.
The seller of this item obviously specialises in such relics and has hair from many other famous people. And his eBay feedback is extensive and 99.9% favourable.
I have seen two or three similar samples of MvR hair on the market originally sold by Charles Hamilton, all with that drawing of MvR. Has anyone any actual knowledge (as opposed to doubt) that these samples are not genuine?
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27 November 2005, 05:31 AM
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Color of MvR hair
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Originally Posted by rc.gardner
I have seen two or three similar samples of MvR hair on the market originally sold by Charles Hamilton, all with that drawing of MvR. Has anyone any actual knowledge (as opposed to doubt) that these samples are not genuine?
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Assuming that the samples are genuine, what would have been the actual color of MvR's hair?
VBR...FliegerJG1
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27 November 2005, 08:26 AM
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stigmata
That's too easy:
Same color as Elvis.
Everybody knows that.
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27 November 2005, 09:48 AM
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Originally Posted by rc.gardner
Has anyone any actual knowledge (as opposed to doubt) that these samples are not genuine?
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IMO: in the absence of [a], scientific verification and/or [b], credible provenance - (evidence for neither of which are provided by the advert); it is as true as both parties,[buyers and sellers], wish it to be.
No more, no less.
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27 November 2005, 09:54 AM
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Goering had a small box with Richthofen's foto and hair. After trial in 1946 this box lost.
Peteroz
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27 November 2005, 11:00 AM
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Goering's box
Peteroz,
I think that this box may have found its way to a Dr.John Lattimer. He wrote a book about the Nazis he met as a young army doctor in Nuremberg. See the link for details on the book.
Hitler's Fatal Sickness and Other Secrets of the Nazi Leaders: Why Hitler "Threw Victory away": Amazon.co.uk: John Lattimer: Books
In the book, there is a picture of Richthofen's hair and a picture that were formerly in the possession of Goering.
VBR...FliegerJG1
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