Breguet's Aircraft ID Challenge #136

[Varese2002]

Breguet's Aircraft Challenge # 136

A new one for the experts. One point for the exact machine and designation. I fear I will have to bring in some float- or seaplanes next time

Kees



Scoreboard:

25.7 Varese2002
10.3 Dave_Kent
9.2 Rbailey
8.6 Rod Filan
7.0 Breguet
7.0 YavorD
6.0 Eric Goedkoop
5.6 ercoupepilot
5.5 EdStevens
5.3 Colin A. Owers
5.1 joegertler
4.7 JohnMacG
4.1 bshatzer
4 greenknight
3 Gilles
2.7 dpolglaze
2.4 Ross Moorhouse
2.3 Cruze
1.7 Berman
1.6 Tom L
1.2 Ransom E. Olds
1 Peter Zambori
1 Gregoire
1 cubsfan4life
1 austin08
1 Cliff
.4 Vilkata
.2 Paul_J._Fisher

Past Challenges: http://www.earlyaviator.com/br.challenge/

[Ross_Moorhouse]

Is it a Avro 504B?

[Dave_Kent]

Lebed VII ?

[cubsfan4life]

Anatra Anasalj? No. Looks more like a Sopwith Tabloid...

[Rbailey]

Lebed VII was a copy of the Sopwith Tabloid and the single bay version of it would have been my guess.

[Rod_Filan]

Why, it's a Dutch Spijker A7 at Marinecamp De Mok during 1918 of course!

Cheers

[Rbailey]

On second thought, Spyker V3, Netherlands.

[Varese2002]

After searching in the Russian snow Rod made a correct identification of the (Dutch) firm that built this one-and-only machine. RBailey followed, but both did not have the factory designation correctly.

We are looking at a (retouched) picture of the Spyker V-1 fighter of end 1916, the first original built Dutch machine.

The unretouched machine


The design was made by a duo of designers, the French designer Vannehard and engineer Albert Gilles von Baumhauer a Dutchman born in Heerenveen.
The Spyker machine was built by the NV Automobiel- en Vliegtuigenfabriek (Automobile- and flying machines factory] Trompenburg at Amsterdam.

The machine was powered by a Thulin 80 hp rotary engine and was eventually bought by the MLD (Marine Luchtvaart Dienst - Marine Air Service) in July 1918, where it got the serial A-7 on the fuselage, later changed to A-10. The machine was written off in mid 1920.

That leaves us at a Spyker V-1 (factory designation) which had Marine Air Service serials A-7 and later A-10.

To fix the Challenge I allot 0.7 points to Rod and 0.3 points to Rbailey.

Kees

Scoreboard:

25.7 Varese2002
10.3 Dave_Kent
9.5 Rbailey
9.3 Rod Filan
7.0 Breguet
7.0 YavorD
6.0 Eric Goedkoop
5.6 ercoupepilot
5.5 EdStevens
5.3 Colin A. Owers
5.1 joegertler
4.7 JohnMacG
4.1 bshatzer
4 greenknight
3 Gilles
2.7 dpolglaze
2.4 Ross Moorhouse
2.3 Cruze
1.7 Berman
1.6 Tom L
1.2 Ransom E. Olds
1 Peter Zambori
1 Gregoire
1 cubsfan4life
1 austin08
1 Cliff
.4 Vilkata
.2 Paul_J._Fisher

Past Challenges: http://www.earlyaviator.com/br.challenge/

[Rbailey]

Kees - thanks for the .3 points, which I probably don't deserve, having taken the i.d. from the same picture that you showed that was posted on a Japanese site that I came across by accident without looking any further to confirm it. They obviously confused the V1 with the later machine, which looks quite different.

[Rod_Filan]

Originally Posted by Rbailey

Kees - thanks for the .3 points, which I probably don't deserve, having taken the i.d. from the same picture that you showed that was posted on a Japanese site that I came across by accident without looking any further to confirm it...

Nah, you deserve it Rb. At least you looked it up--I recognized it right away from the same photo on my website I knew it was a Thulin motor though--but forgot to type it in my answer! Who knows?...I might have picked up a hundredth of a point

Kees--Your photo is very sharp and the name on the cowl is clear. Now it seems certain to me Spijker is an incorrect spelling although you made no mention of it specifically. In two instances Belgians have refered of it to me this way. ...or is it a presumption on their part from other "translated" names, ie: Henri Wijnmalen=Henry Wynmalen ?

Cheers