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De Petrowski Alexander · 1 May 2006, 01:32 PM

I am of the opinion that the claims for balloons should be allowed, I can agree however to the fact that this can only apply to WW I and other Air Wars of the period, and not to later wars fought with more developed aircraft.

Were one had in WW I, the balloons (manned), on had in WW II, the flying bombs "vergeltungswaffe 1" (unmanned), starting with the Vietnam war and until today, there have been a number of claims against Military UAV's of various sizes, and especially since the Americans recently put some in service carrying weaponry, I feel that UAV's can also be accepted as claims.

As there have been Balloon Aces, there also have been V1 Aces, some with very notable scores. Nicknamed "Diver Aces"

British Berry Joseph DFC and two Bars (59 V1) + 3 aircraft
British Mellersh Richard Lee DFC and Bar (41 V1) + 8 aircraft + 1 probable
Belgian Van Lierde Remy DFC and two Bars (37 V1) + 6 aircraft + 1 damaged + 1 destroyed on the ground

So far as I know there has only been one claim during WW II against a zeppelin, and this was made by a German U boat, U 615 shot down Navy Blimp K-68 (CO : Lt(g) W. Wydean) of ZP 21 Sqn USN on 6th august 1943 (no fatalities)

I have no knowledge about pilots ever being able to shoot down long range missiles, perhaps some of you know more ? Missiles starting with the "vergeltungswaffe 2" and going all the way to the Iraqi "Scud" and beyond .....

I know that anti-aircraft units have made claims against Missiles, Who can provide details ?

My point is that apart from manned aircraft, (still the prime target) armed or not, pilots from the beginning have also been shooting at other aerial targets, starting with balloons and zeppelins, to flying bombs, missiles and drones.

1 May 2006, 01:32 PM	#10
De Petrowski Alexander Observer Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Leopoldsburg Belgium Posts: 50	I am of the opinion that the claims for balloons should be allowed, I can agree however to the fact that this can only apply to WW I and other Air Wars of the period, and not to later wars fought with more developed aircraft. Were one had in WW I, the balloons (manned), on had in WW II, the flying bombs "vergeltungswaffe 1" (unmanned), starting with the Vietnam war and until today, there have been a number of claims against Military UAV's of various sizes, and especially since the Americans recently put some in service carrying weaponry, I feel that UAV's can also be accepted as claims. As there have been Balloon Aces, there also have been V1 Aces, some with very notable scores. Nicknamed "Diver Aces" British Berry Joseph DFC and two Bars (59 V1) + 3 aircraft British Mellersh Richard Lee DFC and Bar (41 V1) + 8 aircraft + 1 probable Belgian Van Lierde Remy DFC and two Bars (37 V1) + 6 aircraft + 1 damaged + 1 destroyed on the ground So far as I know there has only been one claim during WW II against a zeppelin, and this was made by a German U boat, U 615 shot down Navy Blimp K-68 (CO : Lt(g) W. Wydean) of ZP 21 Sqn USN on 6th august 1943 (no fatalities) I have no knowledge about pilots ever being able to shoot down long range missiles, perhaps some of you know more ? Missiles starting with the "vergeltungswaffe 2" and going all the way to the Iraqi "Scud" and beyond ..... I know that anti-aircraft units have made claims against Missiles, Who can provide details ? My point is that apart from manned aircraft, (still the prime target) armed or not, pilots from the beginning have also been shooting at other aerial targets, starting with balloons and zeppelins, to flying bombs, missiles and drones.