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I would happily invite the pacifists to sit with me and watch "High Noon", but I don't think they'd get the point.
What's particularly irksome is that they are so steadfast in their denial of historical fact.
Gee....think of what would have happened if pacifists had convinced the Hasmoneans not to raise their swords in resistance against the Selucid Greeks.
Hellenistic culture would have swallowed up Judaism.....
hmmmmmmmmmm......
then....why, anti-Semitism would never have been created.
Darn those Maccabees!
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