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Vin 11 September 2000 10:50 PM

I recently borrowed Red Baron 11. I have only had about half a dozen sessions at it yet. I have still only had a go at “Single Mission”. I start off on automatic pilot “A” or automatic for combat, “Alt A” Whenever I disable the automatic pilot, the ‘plane drops its right wing and starts to spin. Pushing the joystick to the left and/or hitting the left rudder “,” has no impact, only turns the plane on its axis. Inevitably it crashes. So the only way I can get back to level is by engaging the automatic pilot.

Whenever the red triplane is in front of me (seldom) I can never control the plane enough to get it in front of the guns, let alone shoot it.

I cannot see how the throttle, “-“ or “+” works at all. I read that the rotarys did not have a throttle control but the pilots adjusted engine speed by “blipping”

First – can anyone tell me what I am doing wrong ?

Second – more important – if it is impossible for me to control the thing in a simulation, I wonder just how hard it must have been for the common or garden pilot to control the real thing – with no automatic pilot to fall back on, it must have been a nightmare for them, especially, assuming they survived, their early missions. So how hard was it ?


Vin

Michael 12 September 2000 12:06 AM

I'd say you've got joystick issue's, cause the sim does not behave like that at all. When you are undamaged your plane should be very easy to control, especially with the RB2 Flight Model, which is a lot easier to get used to than the RB3D Flight Model. Spins should be easily recoverable, stalls are the biggest thing to watch for.

Vigilant 12 September 2000 12:55 AM

(1) I think it was quite hard!

(2) You need to buy a joystick and chose a plane that has an in-line engine to learn on. Much less spinny.

Mark 12 September 2000 06:02 AM

Vin, I have had RB3D for over a year now, but have played it only a handful of times. I agree that a good joystick should be purchased and that an in-line plane is best to learn on (try the DVII). I found that the best thing is to do without the auto-pilot. Keep practicing take-offs and landings. Once these are mastered, you'll find combat is easy by comparison.

p.s. by no means am I an expert, typically I get torched 10 times for every on-line victory. Some of those guys are GOOD.

leon_hale 12 September 2000 12:03 PM

i hope this is not a stupid question, but did you configure your stick and rudder pedals?

if not, click start.
settings.
control panel.
double click game controler icon.
highlight your stick and click properties under the 'general' tab.
under the 'settings' tab, click calibrate.
follow on screen instructions. make sure the 'rudder pedals' box is checked.

leon

Vin 12 September 2000 03:25 PM

Thanks Leon,
Yes, I did all those things other than the rudder because I don’t have one. More accurately, my teenaged son, who happily plays his space and car games, doesn’t have one. I shall have another look anyway.

Thanks Michael,
I thought it was joystick at first but my teenaged son assures me that it is properly calibrated.

Thanks Vigilant & Mark,
It had not occurred to me before. The ‘plane I have been using is a camel. I’ll try a DV11 or a SE 5a and see if that is any better.

I think I’ll just give it back to the bloke who loaned it to me.


Ron_F 13 September 2000 09:26 AM

Dont give up yet! download the patch to make it Rb3d,, then choose intermediate Fm. then try the camel.
Its the closest to real planes than the 'authentic' is for Rb3D. dont worry about other aftermarket flight models just yet.

just practice some, and you will get better at it. Rb3D is still the best all around WW1 sim available for single and multi player.

it takes time to learn a sim. not like first person shooters.

fwiw,
Ron


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