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snj5 28 November 2010 09:52 AM

How do you spell....
 
...thr term for the spade stick grip on Sopwiths (pronounced "klosh")?

Clough?
Chlough?
Clogh?

thanks

bristol scout 28 November 2010 10:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by snj5 (Post 545914)
...thr term for the spade stick grip on Sopwiths (pronounced "klosh")?

Clough?
Chlough?
Clogh?

thanks

'Cloche' I would imagine--- as in French---But I have never heard of the term in anything other than a Bleriot, and have no knowledge of it in Sopwiths---except (as it is French) perhaps in French strutters--they did use more of them than we did.

Cheers,
Dave.

Makhpiyaluta 28 November 2010 11:35 AM

Dave is right the term was used for the Bleriot. The Bleriot controle stick was attached to the 'Cloche' wich is also a device used in resaurants to cover food on a plate. Translated to English 'cloche' means 'bell'
It doesn't refer to the Sopwith spadegrip.

http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/543...eplatetain.jpg

Here you can see the Bleriot controle cables attached to the 'cloche'
http://img256.imageshack.us/img256/7535/clochevo.jpg

Willem

bristol scout 28 November 2010 12:01 PM

Hi Willem,

Nice pictures my friend---I was feverishly trawling my NASM book on the Bleriot XI but now I can rest up:D:D

Cheers mate, and that bowl at the bottom is what I was thinking of.
Perhaps it simply became a 'generic' term on French aeroplanes....

Dave.:)

Makhpiyaluta 28 November 2010 12:18 PM

I don't know Dave I've only heard of the term related to the Bleriot XI the food cover and the old 19th century hoop dresses were called so because of their 'bell' shape.

http://img94.imageshack.us/img94/8914/53lg.jpg

Willem

bristol scout 28 November 2010 12:48 PM

I think you are right mate----and anyway, your pictures just keep getting better....:D

Cheers,
Dave.

Barry Hickson 28 November 2010 01:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Makhpiyaluta (Post 545928)
I don't know Dave I've only heard of the term related to the Bleriot XI the food cover and the old 19th century hoop dresses were called so because of their 'bell' shape.

http://img94.imageshack.us/img94/8914/53lg.jpg

Willem

;) Great pic Willem! Maybe that was why they were called "Belles of the Ball" !:D:D:D:p

Pips 28 November 2010 03:57 PM

That's very perceptive of you Barry. :)

snj5 28 November 2010 05:45 PM

Thanks all for the replies!!
I have heard he term used and read it (but forgot the spelling) in either Yeates (Winged Victory) or another contemporary period piece.

RAF56_Ball 30 November 2010 01:07 PM

While not conical, the "spade handle" is a bit bell shaped. And I recall some bells with a somewhat similar shape to the loop they hang from (i.e. the piece at the top of hte bell). Maybe it ws a slang use?


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